After Effects 5/2/06

[Damien Porter]

they are up

[Stone Cold]

Give me one fucking reason why we lost the tag gold!

[Mr. Lover]

OK guys!The list of our wins is getting short latly! I am realy thinking to leave you soon if we are going this way! The last After Effects I was realy fucked up! This guy wrote one and we two but still we lost!

[Jonny Stripes]

I'll give you a reason, but you won't like it

The whole thing with Austin and Lemmy being drunk all the time, shooting people, etc... is getting really old, really fast

You did 6 rps this week between you and they had very little depth to them, because they all seem to be the same

As opposed to me and Matts 3, which either develop the character a bit or show a different facet of them

As for your win/loss record Lover, my guess is because the face Lover was beginning to get stale, just like Austin and Lemmy are now

Personally, I think you have been roleplaying better since you turned heel

[Stone Cold]

danny said:

I'll give you a reason, but you won't like it

The whole thing with Austin and Lemmy being drunk all the time, shooting people, etc... is getting really old, really fast

You did 6 rps this week between you and they had very little depth to them, because they all seem to be the same

As opposed to me and Matts 3, which either develop the character a bit or show a different facet of them

As for your win/loss record Lover, my guess is because the face Lover was beginning to get stale, just like Austin and Lemmy are now

Personally, I think you have been roleplaying better since you turned heel

You know... It's easy to show a new face of something new. Like you three just formed a stable and Joey being afraid of deathmatches. And other stuff... Yeah it's just easy to show something new but lets see what you are doing with Jonny lately... You have him walking around talking shits and acting cool. And that had been going for quite some time now. But of course his character is not getting "really old, really fast". He is our champion after all!

Now let me tell you a secret. You can't keep the things changing all the time. You have to make a change and then keep the things for some time. Use what you have to keep everything going and then after some time you can make another change. Then you keep the things steady again and so on... This is how it works and you my friend will have to realize that one day!

If we take Pyro for example. It's getting hard to work with him. He has been like that for some time and he needs a change but I'm still not sure what change he needs. Not a face change for certain. I was planning to make him a cocky champion but this somehow didn't worked out since I lost the shot at the Deathmatch title. When I write rps with Austin I at least try to keep the things funny and keep it interesting for reading unlike you. Your characters either have an interview or have to go on the ring and start talking trash about their opponents. Well it's the same stuff all the time and I tried to make something different. It would be easier for me to just change Austin every time he get in the ring but this is not my style. I never choose the easier in front of the better.

If you two had put more effort and had wrote some replies to our rps I would consider the fact that you are showing something new as your advantage but this is not the case.

[Disturbed]

Look, as much as i dont want to get invovled in this. I think that you are an excellent rp, especially with pyro. That is possibly why stone codl gimmik is getting odl - because we have been watching him on tv for some time, and i know you probably wouldnt want to change him dramatically as that wuldn't be sticking with his character. All I think Jonny is trying to say is that if you write an rp with no purpose in mind, there's no point writing it. Good rp's are those that are written for a purpose - and that may be to show yuor superiority of to trash talk your opponent. And I do agree with you that different rp's are refreshing - SOMETIMES. when they are all very similar, you know, involving being drunk and shooting people, they do get very old very quickly. I'm not saying you shuld drop that completley, but focus more on character developemnt, and also having a go at your compeitors. It's called constructive critisism, and you shouldnt take it with offence.

[Matt Hare]

Don't sook coz you keep losing. Thats not why you participate in e-feds. If you lose - so what? You're just a quitter if you leave because of some losses. I had a period where I kept losing, and did i quit? Welll....after ages, but it wasnt the reason i quit.

If you lose, especially with heels. It doesnt take anything away from the character, it might just build your character. Lover in particularly with Mr Lover, who turned because he kept losing. Turn losing into a storyline, be creative. Don't just bitch when yoo lose!

[Jonny Stripes]

If you want to argue about it, argue with the facts:

4 World Titles, 3 Deathmatch Titles, 2 Australian Titles and 4 Tag Team Titles with 3 characters

Now that tells me something...you guys care about winning, but don't win

I care about my character and I win a lot...I change my character to give him history

For example, I can go back to the time when Jonny was a loony and say "Remember when you cut up a cow carcass in Hares locker room" or "Remember when you faked your own death to Shazzer, by lying in a pool of red dye"

That is from one gimmick...I have many more memories to share because that 3 month gimmick change saw me put Jonny through a lot of scenarios

Then I changed back...classic DUEW moment again, in the hospital when Jonny attacks Disturbed, only to break down in tears

Now, lets look back at some of Stone Colds moments...hang on, they all run into each other because they are all the same

It is very hard for me to distinguish between a Lemmy and Austin rp for a start...thats fine, tag teams should compliment each others styles...COMPLIMENT...not COPY

Let me tell you how I found your rps at first with Austin= boring

Then as time went on they got very funny but last month, pretty much after you guys won the tag gold, they got boring again

They were long with unnecessary dialogue...they were trying too hard to pack in hilarious moments and the duo had lost something

Pyro, you have the ability to Rp really well and I list our Jonny/Pyro feud as in my top three feuds with Jonny

But can you really say that you have had memorable moments with Austin?

And this, this would be ok, if, IF, you didn't complain when you lost

You not doing the greatest job with Austin would be ok, IF, you only did rps for fun

I remember when me and Nicho weren't mates and we would be at each others throats a lot

The arguement climaxed when he told Diz he was boring and I struck back with "you are the worst here"

He said to me thats ok, you go on and be good and win titles, I'll go on and be good and have FUN

Essentially, roleplaying is about fun and I learnt that from Nicho and haven't complained when I have lost since

During ADDU2 I had a major mental block because I had taken Jonny to the end of his fuse with that gimmick...I needed a change...likewise with Joey, the reason I changed back to heel was because I wasn't enjoying roleplaying with him, because I knew that his strength was to bitch and rip on his opponents

So sorry, I changed my characters and sorry you think I took the easy way out

I am going to tell you what Nicho told me that day, you go on rping and trying to win titles, I'll go on and rp and have FUN

[Brett Hart]

You think I don't cear bout my charecter?!?!? Well the reason I don't want to change Lemmy's gimmick is because I like him that way! And if you lose every 3 out of 4 matches you will start to ceare bout the winnings too! And want facts? Here some:

Bret entered on Jul 20 2005.

His first match was agains the three of BOD! I lostq but I kind of deserved that!

After that it get better I beat Joey in my next match.

Then I don't know why the fuck I get match v. you Jonny! I ofcorse lost!

Or better something sonner!

I won't brag about not getting a chance at any title (with Bret) in the last show of the year may be you got something in mind.

Lance and Bret face Joey and Nich! Who win?

Bret vs. Balistic! Who win? Not Bret I am sure!

In the last matches is good. I won the first place for Deathmatch title!

But that doesn't change the fact I am like jobber! If I am so bad in it and I suck so much I better not lose my time!

[Matt Hare]

Umm...3 losses from 4 matches isn't bad. Have a fucking sook! I lost like 6 matches in a row or something back in the day, but I didnt quit. Gosh.

[Jonny Stripes]

None of that message was directed at you

I don't know what you think, that there is some Bulgarian Brothers Conspiracy to hold back you three but its all in your head

That big message was directed to your older brother

You have never complained you have lost and I respect that

But here are some more facts:

I gave you a shot at the Deathmatch Title and I told you then that if you don't win, then you will have to start from the bottom and work your way up

You lost and right there, you proved to me you weren't ready for another shot

Unfortunately, you still faced some of the best in DUEW from that point and continued losing

I judge fairly and I always have and the same goes for Damo

You got a BIG win against me (Joey) at G v H, we weren't holding you back then and haven't...now you have won like 4 matches in a row and once Disturbed is done in this World Title Tourney, you are getting another shot

Please man, don't say something stupid like you want to leave because you feel hard done by...air your grievances and you can talk about it, no one will bite your head off if you are reasonable

[Brett Hart]

Man first I am not paranoic! I don't think for conspirations! Why do you have to screw the half of your roster? Second I am not happy to lose the golds but I don't complain that is thrut. But I can't let my brothers down! If they decide there is something to complain I can't say that is not right and I won't! They are my brothers and if they say: "It was unfair" I will suport them! Sorry for many of you this may be look supid but that is the way I see the things! Also I am really not planning to leave! I told you before Jonny I don't give up easy and because of that I was beat from Dizzy so many times!

[Damien Porter]

Everybody shut up

do not complsin about win loss record

as far as the match gies this week it was 6 rps v 6 rps. it was a close match but it went to matt and joey

you will get a shot at it soon.

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