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Post by Matt Hare on Feb 19, 2006 20:32:45 GMT 10
First if you really think they should make fun of a death man and destroy some of the biggest talants in the world I can't help you! I agree that the death storylines are wrong, but every fed misuses talent. There simply isn't enough TV time to have everyone in the main event. TNA misuses talent aswell, so do RoH, NJPW, etc. What was Christians excuse aswell, but he still signed. They couls still sign him, and then just wait for him to debut after all his tours, etc are done. That paragraph pretty much explains who I'm arguing with here. That just shows that you're an anti-WWE person. You point out all the faults WWE have done, but if anyone BUT WWE make a mistake, you don't make anything of it. And it's funny how you think WWE suck so much, yet your display name (before you changed it to Brett Hart - which, by the way, is misspelt) was johncena. And if I'm not mistaken, John Cena works for WWE!  Is there ANY way that you can prove that? Are you some sort or Portugese Psychic or something? NO. You think you're knowledgable about wretsling, but you're simply an anti-WWE faggot. If it weren't for WWE - I bet you ANY money (even if it's Bulgarian money) that you wouldn't be on this site right now. Same with all you anti-WWE de-marks. WWE is the reason you watch wrestling, and now you've turned your back on them and you're acting as if you don't like it, but I know you watch it. I have security cameras in your shack. Where is your source that people get paid to fill in seats? Oh I know where you got that....your anus! You try ane make all this shit up, when you OBVIOUSLY don't know anything! I can't really understand the rest of the post but the guys in WWE DO show more than 50% of what potential they have. Why do you think WWE has got millions of fans worldwide? Because people LIKE their product and they have a lot of TV time! Now I'm not an anti-Indy person, nor a WWE mark. But you're so wrong it's not funny. It is actaully pretty funny about how wrong you are...it's funny coz you actually believe the shit you rant on about. |
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Post by Brett Hart on Feb 19, 2006 23:00:26 GMT 10
Matty first stop insulting or I am going to find you by one of these cameras and I am going to put it in your ass so deep that you will need a surgery to get it out!
Second TNA, CZW, NJPW and others destroy talants yeah! But they are way too far from WWE! Paul Burchil, Tajiri I can go on till tommorow.
Thirt yeah Jerico says I don't want to wrestle and then TNA will convince him to work. For how long? I bet Sting will last more! Chris Jerico doesn't want to wrestle any more for now and there is nothing you, I or anyone from TNA can do!
I didn't get that one!
Next John Cena has charisma. For you little kid I am going to explain if you don't know what that is. Charisma is how good you can talk. Not only what but how. He is like the Rock. He can turn on the whole audience and that is something he don't get from WWE. But to honest he don't have much in ring skils.
Damo that I think this is congrats to you! (He changed it)
Next you want prove? Look the superstars from WCW and ECW now. Look what will happen to CM Punk and talk. Every one who is intersted in wrestling can tell you what will happen if Joe and A.J. go WWE. They will job like crazy for "superstars" like Batista!
And Matt I watch WWE, I watch TNA, I watch NJPW, I watch CZW and many others. That is why I can say WWE SUCKS!!!
I know WWE need audience and to full in seats to look like the hall is full they pay! That I got from one big thing called internet. You are going to learn how to use it in eight grade.
And as I said before watch superstars from WWE somewere else and you will see what i am talking about!
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Post by Damien Porter on Feb 20, 2006 11:02:42 GMT 10
ok people stop bitching at each other and lets have a good clean argument. To answer a couple of questions
when wwf/e says 40 feet. it might be 20.
When other feds say 30 or more feet, they actually meen it.
It you wanna see some insane jumps (again with my deathmatch fixation) watch some iwa.
at least one per show there will be a jump of over 20 feet. Quite often through insane tables (likewrapped in barbded wire, or on fire, or covered in thumbtachs, all of the above and more etc). Or invloving some other kind of twist. Eveynow and then somone will light themselves on fire before jumping off it.
The chances of wwe letting somone do that kinda stuff is 0
As far as seeing an 80 year old get powerer bomed, no i havent sceen that anywhere.
But i have sceen pregnet women in deathmatches. And before you say it fake, it would of had to of been a very expensive fake, money that othere feds just don't have
They were around back when pro wresting results wern't fixed, so they had a long time to establish them selves
They were the first to attemp PPV with the first ever wrestlemania. it worked! der
And MR Machon is one of the best busniss men ever in this world.
people think that wwe is the best beacuse its the biggest, so they don't like the otheres based on that fact. hence it get bigger beacuse of those people. Then a hole heep of new people come along and yadda yadda yadda.
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Post by Jonny Stripes on Feb 20, 2006 14:59:54 GMT 10
Ok, firstly, what fucking idiot would endanger themselves and child by placing themselves in a dangerous situation like a deathmatch?  Yeah, compelling television... Also, I would get soooo bored of seeing crazy shit every week...I don't watch WWE for the crazy happenings that happen! I watch for the storylines (don't believe everything you hear, they are ok), I watch for HHH mike skills (best in the damn business, even if he is banging the boss' daughter) and I watch because they have some of the best in the world (Cena aside, most of the roster is halfway decent) Having insane stuff happen is merely a bonus for me, but if it happened all the time I would fall asleep Plus, thats all well and good what you said about IWA but you didn't answer me in relation to TNA, which is what I was comparing to WWE ps- Bret, you didn't rebut any of my points- i am waaaaaiting |
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Post by Damien Porter on Feb 20, 2006 15:38:28 GMT 10
TNA is ok
to me its on par with wwe
and as far as the pregnet women goes, yeah she is a stupid drug adict
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Post by Matt Hare on Feb 20, 2006 16:04:13 GMT 10
Wtf. You're crazy...
And you told me to stop 'insulting you,' but you do it right back? Umm..that proves who's the 'little kid' here! But according to you, you hate everything in WWE - so technically you should hate John Cena. You can't prove me wrong - I am ALWAYS right! And that isn't even the full explanation for what 'charisma' is. You've seriously got nothing on me. I could argue with you until 2057!
If it sucks so much, why the heck do you watch it?! You watch it to enjoy it then you come on the net and pretend you're so great and bitch about everything it does. Oh...you're SO tough[/sarcasm]
Is there any way to PROVE that CM Punk will get misused? No. You just think you know WWE's next move like it's as simple as sexing your brother in the anus - well it's not. They didn't misuse Kid Kash, did they? They pushed his good - but you're certainly not congradulating them on that. You just point out all their mistakes so they look terrible! ERRRHHH - LOSER!
Since the internet is always SOOOOOOO reliable and everything and people DONT just make shiz up![/sarcasm] And also, I'm in grade 10, gimp! And how would you know the Australian Curriculum? You're from Bulgaria!!! Errrhhh
If you could go on 'til 'tomorrow,' then why are they the only two you have mentioned so far? Shouldn't you use a bit of variety if you're gonna try sound educated?
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Post by Jonny Stripes on Feb 20, 2006 18:04:18 GMT 10
Dude, what the hell!
Burchills gimick is freakin' awesome!
About time the WWE got a swashbuckling, full of himself, arrogant son of a gun...he can feud with Randy Orton!
I think the problem with TNA is they don't know how to package their wrestlers that well, unlike WWE
Ok, there will always be exceptions to the rules...AJ Styles has been done quite well and now he is a nice little package of a dynamic, young superstar...this is what Paul London should be but unfortunately, WWE have so much talent they cannot possibly push everyone
Likewise WWE does get it wrong sometimes...Burchill used to use a sick as backflip/rock bottom finisher but the WWE stopped that and made him an all out brawler...now he has a silly little gimmick that'll probably pass sooner than it comes
But after this you look at Masters, Orton and Carlito, all brash young guys with good physiques ready to kick ass (Carlito has even more of a twist on that)
Then there are the downright scary guys like Kane and Taker...they are even starting to get Big Show right again
ps- TNA plays host to the worst wrestler alive, MONTY BROWN...OMG THE SHOULDERBLOCK! Val Venis got over that about 4 years ago and Cena only uses it to "Hulk Up"
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Post by Matt Hare on Feb 20, 2006 18:19:13 GMT 10
Umm..Monty Brown is great! What are you ... on?
And Burchill still uses his C4, unless he's stopped because of the Pirate gimmick.
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Post by Brett Hart on Feb 20, 2006 21:54:24 GMT 10
I don't say I know everything but I do say I know more about wrestling than you!
Then Monty Brown is an idiot (here Matt another mistake on TNA)! He don't have in rings skills and man he suck! But what can I expect from you Matty?
There are goodstorylines not only in WWE Jonny! Yeah there are some good stuff, but it i not the only good stuff.
No coment!
Can you tell me when I said I hate everything in WWE? I really can't remembar that one. I said they suck compear to other good feds but I didn't say that I hate evewrything in WWE. I give credit to the guys that deserve it. Rey Misterio, Carlito, Maters after couple of years if he don't get destroyed by WWE, the way John Cena turn on the crowd, Kurt Angel and Benoit coz they know how to wrestle. But I don't say something is good when it is not. Randy's gimmick, that Rey give every victory to Eddie, that Randy said Eddie will burnin hell, Boggeyman, JBL's menager, that WWE once a year fire guys that can wrestle and get other "better superstars".
I watch WWE for two reasons. First I believe that everything can get better even WWE and second I am interested in wrestling. It is the company with the biggest name in the buissnes today and I watch coz that my friend give me reason to say that was bad and that was good. I can compear to other feds and say this is bod and this is the worst thing I have ever seen. And I can say he got uinring skils and he is doing good job.
Oh yeah Kid Kash. Wow what about Booker T. Now you will say: "What about him? He got the american title he is grate!" Well Kid sorry to brake it to ya but he was 6 times WCW WORLD champion he deserves the world havyweith title much more than Batista, Henry, HHH and other guys like them. What happened to RVD? One of the best guys ever steped on the ring of ECW. He is now in the midcard. And what happened to Lance Storm? Wow he is good but WWE don't make favours to the guys that work and are loyal to the other promotions.
And every guy who know a little more about wrestling and don't watch wrestling just to see guys hitting themselfs know what will happen to CM! You obiosly don't know anything about WWE backstage. Coz if you did you would know what will happen to CM Punk. The best way is that he will be in the mid card like RVD. And I promiss if he go to the main event in the first year I am going to say: "I was wrong Matt!"
You know what! If you think I am sexing my bro in the anus then ask your mother. Better say what you prefer brother or sister?
And I don't know the Curriculum in Australia but we learn computers in eight grade and after that. And by the way 10 grade!?!?! From what age you go to school?
You want more no problem. John Cena, Scot Steiner, Randy Orton, RVD, Booker T, Tommy Dreamer, Lance Storm, NWO (as organisation). Want more? Just sa I have a lot of time!
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Post by Damien Porter on Feb 20, 2006 22:07:25 GMT 10
the reason why wwe doesn't give all the grets the respect they desevevr (by the meens of titles/ main events) is beacuse they have to many of them.
Yes there were good feds like ecw that could pull of a night, were every match was a main event. But wwe couldn't. It would lose all its yuppies. which is the majority of its fans (that does not apply to anyone on this board).
WWE is popular/ too popular to be the best.
PS any more personal arguments and this thred will be closed, so stop this patheic, "you do you brother up the ass" crap. It is stupid and proves nothing.
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Post by Mr. Lover on Feb 20, 2006 23:11:18 GMT 10
I am not here to argue with anyone. I just read something that: The Boogeyman is a German folk tale where he comes to your room and puts you to sleep with dust...he stops time for you, hence the smashing of the "Flavour Flav" clock when he enters... And I wanted to say something about it. Here in Bulgaria and even in Russia The Boogeyman is a character used by the adults to control the little kids with fear. When the kid is still a baby 3/5 years old the adults tell him story for a man who's named The Boogeyman, who kidnaps the naughty kids and then cooks and eats them. Because the kid is little he belive in this tale and he is nice with everyone coz he don't want to become a meal for the Boogeyman. And when he does something wrong his parents say: Don't do that or the Boogeyman will come to get you! Story: When I was a little boy I left one tennis- racket on the stove and I almost light the house on fire. No one got hurt but I was so scared that I was a naughty boy and that the Boogeyman will come to get me that I stood woke in my bed till a time I wasn't allowed to stay. Then I thought "Will he come not because I light a fire but because I am still woke???" I got even more scared so I toke a wooden stick from our yard, that was long enought to be used like a sword. I got back in my bed but I was still having that stck in my hands. I waited the Boogeyman so I could show him who is the boss around but no one came. I fall a sleep and on the morning someone tried to woke me up and I attacked him with the stick. I started to hit him and scream for help. When our baby-sitter came she said: The baby-sitter: "What are you doing?" Me: "I got him! I beated the Boogeyman? HAhahaha ;D" The baby-sitter: "The Boogeyman?!?! Let go the stick and leave your brother alone"!" Me: "My Brother? " My bro: "And I just wanted to ask you to come and play footbal with me!!!!"  Moral: Don't used that stupid story coz you scares the shit out of that little boys or girls. |
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Post by Damien Porter on Feb 20, 2006 23:28:12 GMT 10
nice story lover but very off topic
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Post by nicho on Feb 21, 2006 0:13:43 GMT 10
I just cant be fucked arguing with any of you guys! no matter what anyone says, and no matter what Goarge W. Bush says....
1st: WWE!
2nd: TNA!
3rd: ROH!
and after that i dont really follow any!
*that aint a good argument! But its True!
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Post by Pyro on Feb 21, 2006 6:28:26 GMT 10
Ok... You guys forced me to get in this topic. I don't wanna hear any personal insults towards me at first place as anyone has the right to have his own opinion. The only difference is that I am right and all of you have made mistakes in your ones! To be clear, I know everything that could be known for the wrestling today... Matt one of the main differences between WWE and the others is not that the other feds use their talents better but that the other promotions use their better talents! Y2J ain't coming back as he stated in his many interviews he has his band to take care of! Besides, he wouldn't have brought so many new fans as Sting did! You want a prove that WWE fucks up their talents but wouldn't consider anyone who is still on the roster. That works for me here is a huge list of fucked up wrestlers who were going to be WHC if used properly: Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn, FRANKIE KAZARIAN, Akio, Kidman, Jeff Hardy, Justine Credible, Mike Awesome, Raven, Rikishi, Rhyno, Scott Steiner, Shannon Moore, Tajiri, Test and there might be more. These guys are just for the last couple of years. I won't bother to write lists of the guys who are not used properly or the guys who will be fucked in the upcoming one or two years coz these lists are just too long and much longer than the one I showed you! And as far as WWE paying to people to fill their seats it's 99% true as people who had been on a show then post a review on the net and tell what was going on and other detailos which we can't see on our TV/Computer! I watch WWE as well since they have some good matches but they also have a lot of fucked up matches which do not need attention. Actually the biggest part of the matches in WWE are fucked up! Monty Brown is funny but nothing more. His in ring skills suck like a little bitch on a highway! By the way Matt you don't know the Bulgarian Curriculum? You're from Australia!!! Errrhhh Jonny, your turn my boy! Monty is really a shitty wrestler but there are much worse guys in WWE. I'll be good enough to give some examples. Viscera, Tyson Tomko and Shitski... I'm sorry a mistake of the fast typying I wanted to write Snitsky are much worse than Monty! Shawn Michaels is the best... BITCH in the world! Orlando Jordan can't wrestle even if his life depends on it! Mark Henry is nothing more than a big freak with little to none talent! John Crena is just as good as Monty! JBL is like the stiffest worker alive! Boogey man fuckin' suck and his gimmick is fucked up. He has no place on the ring and by the way the teeth that he lacks are from the training in OVW where he wasn't good wenough (and he still isn't) to protect himself! And last my two favourites. Batista and Chris Masters! These guys can't wrestle but are pushed just as if they married Steph not the Trips! They should find themselves decent jobs as porters and forget about wrestling because they torture the crowd and the guys in front of their TVs/Computers with their fucked up matches! TNA package their wrestlers pretty well and for damn certain way better than WWE! This is a fact and if you look at a simple example of how these feds used Christian you'll know that! The problem for you is that you don't watch TNA often enough to realize that! Now on your points you wanted Bret to argue with. It had been proven that WWE pay to people to fill the empty places for the tapings of SD and RAW and what ever other show they have. Right now the company has a hard time to sold out even WM which is because of the weak product. Vince had banned so much of the CW moves that he should close the whole division. I don't know what you've watched from London in ROH but you should have got the wrong tape man coz when Paul started in ROH he was still making his own style. When he finished this proccess he was fuckin' awearsome and then WWE took him and fucked him up banning his move and making a complete repackage of one almost completed superstar! TNA has so much crazy shit that WWE will need a year to have as much as TNA has in one show! They don't need TLC (which WWE uses once on every two years), they have something called X-division with Ultimate X matches (which TNA has quite often and are much better)! Why the hell would a normal person want to see 80 year old woman allowing herself to get powerbomber off a stage?!? Jeff takes much more risks in TNA than he had ever taken in WWE/F and it is not only him but Abyss, Sabu, Rhyno, Raven and many others (the whole X-division)! To think that samoa Joe is boring? Are you a fuckin' mark or haven't you ever watch any of his matches? There is no third option on this one! And by the way he is better than Angle! TNA has a lot of wrestlers with good mic skills: AJ, The Fallen Angel, Alex Shelly, B.G James, STING, Konnan, Matt Bently, Monty Brown (he has to be good in something and he is damn good with the mic), Raven, Killings, Scott D'Amore, James Mitchell and many many more... The list can go on for ages! By the way, Jonny, you like WWE for the storylines?!? If this is not a joke then my boy you can just switch the channel to "Bold and Beauty"! You'll get the same shit but cheaper (you won't have top pay for PPVs anymore)! If you don't like that you can choose which ever soap opera you like and there you go! You have storylines just like the ones in WWE! Damo, do you buy IWA shows or do you download them from somewhere coz I really want to get some IWA stuff but there aren't many places that I know of from where I can get this stuff! That was all boys. 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Post by Damien Porter on Feb 21, 2006 15:02:48 GMT 10
i doubt this very much, but if it has been provven then show us the proof.
I by the stuff. I'l send you the last kotdm for free if you bye a duew tshirt. like i will send them together
And that goes to any one else to, when i do releas the shirts, every one comes with a free DVD
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Yeah, compelling television...
