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Post by Nightmare on Mar 24, 2006 20:42:43 GMT 10
With all the news about WWE bringing back former talent like Test, Chuck, Jidrak, Mideon, does anyone think its a good or bad idea by the WWE?
I think its a good idea due to Smackdown having not much talent on the show, and also bringing in big guys would be good. Very intrested to see what the WWE will do with Test ;D
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Post by Matt Hare on Mar 25, 2006 13:27:03 GMT 10
Shannon Moore also signed with them the other day. My opinions on the wrestlers: Test - isn't as good as he's hyped up to be, but would be a good addition to Raw. Chuck - could re-form a sort of FBI with Nunzion adn Vito, but probably won't. He's a pretty good wrestler, and would fit in on either show. Jindrak - pretty good, but nothing that special. Mideon - waste of time, just a fat guy with tats Shannon Moore - fucking awesome wrestler, but knowing WWE - he will be a Velocity jobber!!!  |
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Post by Nightmare on Mar 25, 2006 16:37:10 GMT 10
haha yeah knowing the WWE, most of the rehired talent will return big, then weeks later, back to Heat or Velocity, shame but, WWE can really do good stuff with Moore and Test, but Mideon, i wouldnt know, maybe forming some sort of "Ministry" with Viscera, and re hiriing Gangrel, and work again Undertaker
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Post by Matt Hare on Mar 26, 2006 18:02:14 GMT 10
Nahh, the Ministry won't come back. Viscera/Gangrel turned on Taker with the JBL storyline, so it would be VERY out of character for him to forgive and forget what they did.
Apparently they're having Moore be Hardys new tag partner. Though I love them as singles, the re-uniting of Mattitude would be awesome! But I also heard CM Punk was meant to be Hardys partner - but that never happened. Imagine a stabe with Punk, Moore, Hardy, Melina and Randy Orton...*-drools-*
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Post by Pyro on Mar 28, 2006 8:33:06 GMT 10
Actually the exact orders Vince had given to Jonny Ace were to bring a couple of mid-carders since the mid-card is lacking talent lately. He wanted guys that are naturally big and this is pretty much the end of the story. These hirings are nothing special... Test - He is big alright but definately not naturally! He is on roids for some time now! I am posting a couple of pictures for you to see what I mean. Other than that he is nothing special. I was hoping to see him in TNA for a couple of a couple of appearences but WWE picked him up. Chuck - I am really sorry for him. He will get stuck in the mid-card and will hardly ever get any chance to prove himself. I was really enjoying his time in Japan. Jindrak - Don't really care about that one... Mideon - I doubt that they will use him at all... Shannon Moore - He was in the best wrestlers of the X-division and was going to be huge but... Anyway I don't mind seeing him in a tag team with Hardy! Now the promised pictures of Test!   Hope you like them coz Test had put a lot of effort! ;D Besides he might get fired again when they do drug tests on him! ;D |
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Post by Jonny Stripes on Mar 28, 2006 18:52:10 GMT 10
If Vince fired someone for being on the roids then whoever he fires should knock him the fuck out...if he ain't on roids I don't know who is...no 60 year old should be that big! As for Palumbo, I always thought he was a decent wrestler and IC standard, if a few of the current upper midcard wrestlers are injured... Test is on roids? So what? Candice has a mostly bought body, Trish dyes her hair and most of the divas have breast implants! You still would get into a bit of that  As for Shannon Moore, I think he would have had to bide his time big time in TNA...think about it for a minute...a 1 hour show? That is no time at all to put new wrestlers over Because WWE has two hour shows they can feature and get young wrestlers over more When I watched Impact the other week there was a promo of about 20 seconds featuring Konnan, BG and Kip James and a couple of others...20 seconds to cover a feud?  Once TNA moves to a Primetime, 2 hour slot then I can start believing that maybe, just maybe they will challenge WWE in a few years...at the moment thought, one of there people (Shannon Moore) who you think would have been big in TNA Pyro, has left to job in the WWE...that speaks a fair bit to me about the state of TNA v WWE atm...whoa, how'd I get onto that topic? |
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Post by Stone Cold on Mar 29, 2006 21:24:17 GMT 10
And here we go again. Okay I won't even give it a try this time but I just want you to now a couple of things...
1. I read an interview with Shannon Moore taken after he re-joined WWE and in it he says that he left TNA because he couldn't pay his bills in time... He is not leaving because he thinks he will be more over or in a better position in WWE but because he will be getting more money.
2. 20 seconds is pretty much enough for a promo if it is done well. It's true that if TNA had more time it would be better and they will sooner or later get it but the point is that TNA are dealing well with what they have and WWE keep wasting time in long... boring... unnecessary promos which can actually make me fall asleep while watching them. 20 seconds is not much but it is still a promo which works better than half of the promos in WWE!
3. Test is on roids and this will be a problem if WWE run their drug tests in a fair way. After Eddie died they announced that they will have a new drug policy and that the wrestlers will be tested regularly. If that happens the guys who are on roids will be having a hard time.
4. And most important of all... THE DIVAS WITH BREAST IMPLANTS LOOK F'N GREAT AND I DON'T GIVE A SHIT IF IT'S NATURAL!!! The wrestlers on roids put their health in jeopardy and that's the problem not the fact that their muscules are not natural!
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Post by Jonny Stripes on Mar 29, 2006 22:43:33 GMT 10
Ok, now for me to address your points ;P (its only fair) 1. As a student of history I understand a few of the more important historical methods...Historiography is basically a comment that the historians own history must be examined before we can assume anything...the same applies with Shannon Moore. He has been burnt before and doesnt want to trash TNA, as it may be a future possibility of employment...therefore he doesnt want to appear hostile to them, in case something (or nothing) happens in WWE...it is the same as Roman historians, they didn't insult the emperor of their time, as if they did they would be blacklisted from Roman nobility until the emperor died 2. I hope that up there ^^^ didnt bore you as much as a Triple H promo (sarcasm!)...WWE is big enough and bad enough to be able to make as many small "mistakes" as they like...mistakes are of course relative to who you are...I personally think the long promos at the start of shows with Vince McMahon are some of the highest quality you will ever see, much better than Konnan kidnapping BG James and his dad running down and saving him...What that tells me is that the wrestlers have not enough charisma to sell a good promo, therefore they hold a wrestler hostage, then run away...a very basic formula wherein little skill is needed...a 10 minute Shawn Michaels promo on him being unhappy at Hogans "politiking" and having the balls to get his point across without hesitation...shows me that he is the man (as in the WWE is...) 3. Yeah, you missed my point on this...Vince would be a hypocrite if he fired roid freaks because he not only is one, but has been implied in pushing roids onto his freakishly large workers 4. Yeah...Candice is hot  |
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Post by Stone Cold on Mar 30, 2006 0:52:51 GMT 10
Kinda hoping that we won't get here but...
1. Shannon made his choice. The different wrestlers want different things. Christian for example wanted to really be something in the wrestling and he is on his way of doing it. He is TNA champion and will now wrestle for one of the biggest European federations (Nu Wrestling Evolution - yeah guys you might be surprised but Europe has its traditions in the field of pro wrestling the bad thing is that they are mainly traditions... )... This works for Christian well. He makes enough money on indy bookings being a famous wrestler and he has some extra free time. However there are some wrestlers that find WWE as the better option.
I think that I've said it before and I'll repeat it. WWE offers secure position. The wrestlers can live and pay their bills with the downside guarantee of their salaries. WWE books everything and all a wrestler has to do is to wrestle for 5-10 min. every night on an average pace (I am talking about an average wrestler not WM main event)... Doing this he can collect his money and live alright. The average indy wrestler has to keep himself booked so he can pay his bills. He has to wrestle at high pace 15-20 min. each show (the indy attendance won't be happy and won't pay tickets for anything less and if they are not happy the booker/owner will not book the wrestler again) and has to deal with many different bookers and owners which can be a huge problem. I am more than sure that Shannon will be getting much more in WWE and that is the reason he decided to sign with them.
2. Shawn Michaels is the man?!? Shawn Michaels is da bitch! He is not a man and he will never be!
Many wrestlers in TNA has much more charisma than the average WWE wrestler. And by the way BG James has one of the best promos ever. In WWE everything is written. Every single word a wrestler says is written in the script and we only see Steph's little fantasies becoming reallity. In TNA the wrestlers cuts their own promos and there you can really tell who is good and who is not. In WWE you can only guess who can cut decent promos and who can't but you can have in mind that the writers spend much more time writing Triple H's lines than they do for the other wrestlers. The fact that WWE had everything written turns their wrestling in a soap opera and right now their storylines are completely fucked up. I bet that I can get more entertaining storylines in Bold and Beauty!
3. Well Vince is not going to be tested but I hope that he will stop taking roids coz it will be funny if he is bigger than the active wrestlers.
4. Yeah like you'll miss a chance with her! ;D
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Post by Jonny Stripes on Apr 3, 2006 21:32:34 GMT 10
Ah me and you can argue till the cows come home but hey, whats it going to acheive?
I have a certain fondness to TNA and you probably have the same thing for WWE, but ultimately we both know which side we are on...
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Post by Pyro on Apr 4, 2006 21:07:38 GMT 10
hey hey hey...
Stop it right there! I like WWE... This is the fed which made me watch the pro wrestling...
I like TNA much more in the moment since I find their product being the better one...
But I am an absolute ROH mark! This is the fed which I can call my favourite. Just wanted to be clear here.
And I'm not going to argue anymore over this but there is one thing... You won't miss a chance with Candice. Admit it! ;D
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Post by Joseph Malone on Apr 4, 2006 21:11:30 GMT 10
Lol, I was saying exactly what you said!! And with Candice looking on from your sig, I would feel bad if I said I would pass up that oppurtunity  |
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